Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Women guilty, but boys will be boys...

I came across these stories on a right-wing British blog. Thus, I won't be linking. They were slut-shaming the women, what-is-the-world-coming-to, British girls used to be raised with proper manners, tsk tsk. (etc)

What is really interesting about these two stories is the fact that the women are charged with various crimes, but the men involved were not charged, or were charged with different crimes:

Briton faces jail for sex on Dubai beach

By Terri Judd and Nikolina Sajn
Thursday, 10 July 2008
UK Independent

A British businesswoman is facing six years in an Arab jail after apparently being caught having drunken sex on a beach in Dubai.

Michelle Palmer, 30, was allegedly found in a compromising position on Jumeirah beach with a British holidaymaker, named only as Vince, whom she had met that morning at a champagne brunch with her work colleagues. A police officer apparently spotted the couple having sex on the beach and cautioned them, only to return later to find they had ignored his warning.

Last night, Ms Palmer's employer, ITP Publishing, confirmed that she had been dismissed after being accused of "a number of serious public order offences", including having sex outside marriage, indecent behaviour in public and assaulting a police officer.

A spokesman said: "ITP... expects its staff to behave in a manner consistent with the moral and cultural values of the society in which we all live and work. To this end the company gives its staff clear guidance regarding what is and what is not acceptable in the United Arab Emirates [UAE] when they join.

"Following an internal review of this incident, the company has dismissed Ms Palmer."

A Foreign Office spokesman confirmed that consular assistance was being offered to two British nationals who had been arrested on Saturday. He said the case was being investigated by the Dubai authorities but no formal charges had been brought.

In a blog entry she apparently posted last night, Ms Palmer spoke of her fear at what might happen to her. "We have all made silly regretful mistakes in life, of which some pay all too dearly ... The fear I feel each time I close my eyes fills my heart with dread ... Please imagine if it were you, this is punishment enough."

According to The Sun, Ms Palmer was said to have launched a tirade at the police officer who arrested her and threatened him with one of her high heels.

"Because this is known everywhere they're going to make an example of us and we're going to get a higher sentence. We are in so much trouble and my family and everybody are affected," she told the newspaper. "Until someone is in this situation they could never know what it's like. It's bad – it's so, so bad. They are being pushed into a corner to make an example of us. I'm panicking – my mum is on antidepressants."

While the embassy of the UAE in London had no comment to make yesterday, one insider insisted that it was not a "fundamentalist state". "If somebody was doing this in Hyde Park, I wonder what the British police would do? You have to conduct yourself with decorum."

In recent years Dubai has become an increasingly popular tourist destination. Each year about a million UK visitors travel to the UAE, while 100,000 expatriate Brits live there. Sex outside marriage is illegal in the UAE, as is cohabitation, adultery and homosexual behaviour. Visitors are warned that public displays of affection are frowned upon, and there have been several arrests for kissing in public.
In the following incident, the women are charged with outright prostitution, while the men have been charged with "encouraging obscene behaviour"--say what?

Brit Tourists In Sex Game Disgrace

Sky News, 1:03pm UK, Monday July 14, 2008
Nine British women who took part in an oral sex competition while on holiday on the Greek island of Zakynthos are facing charges of prostitution.

Six British and six Greek men, including two bar owners, were also charged over the incident, which took place at Laganas beach in the south of the island.

The women had been paid to take part in the competition, which was video recorded and was to be posted on the Internet, police said.

The men were charged with encouraging obscene behaviour.

In recent years, Laganas has established itself as one of Greece's most popular destinations for twenty-something holidaymakers and is known for its alcohol-fuelled nightlife.

Tour operators say the resort offers "non-stop partying" and "wild entertainment well into the night".

Around 15m people - a fifth of them British - visit the eastern Mediterranean country each year, drawn by its soaring summer temperatures, clear waters and sandy beaches.

Zakynthos, also known as Zante, is one of the Greek Ionian islands that is most popular with tourists.
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CrackerLilo said...

Absolutely disgusting. Not only that these women have drastically worse charges and possible sentences than the men, but that there is the same sexism only slightly diluted at home.

So much for going to Dubai.

thene said...

"If somebody was doing this in Hyde Park, I wonder what the British police would do? You have to conduct yourself with decorum."

Telling ignorance; London's Hyde Park is said to be a very popular site for outdoor sex. I've climbed inside up the locked turnstiles in the little hours a few times, just to walk and explore - and once, to swim naked in the Long Water at 3am. I've never seen any sex, but you see many men walking about in the dark (I've never seen another woman there, excepting the one time I had a friend come over the railings with me), and I've been told that the south side of the Serpentine is where to go for that, so I avoid that area.

Decorum in the UK, oh yeah.

JoJo said...

Typical. Women are always made out to be sluts and hussies. Look at how Muslim women are treated, and/or killed, by the men in their own families if they are raped? It's always THEIR fault for bringing shame on the family. Meanwhile the rapist goes free.

Even now, in this country, women are "bitches" and "hoes" and men are "studs", "playas" or "pimps".

I'm really sorry that woman lost her job but does she really want to work for such a sexist company anyway?

Lisa Harney said...

Lost her job, might go to prison... And yeah, it's about how women are the evil temptresses and the boys are just doing what comes natural. Fuck that.

This is all very depressing. :(

mikeb302000 said...

Yes, indeed, the double standard is disgraceful. But, maybe if the man had mouthed off to the cop and attacked him with his shoe, he would have been the one arrested.

Daisy said...

Mike, I have to disagree. I think if a man did that, he'd be perceived as protecting the woman's honor. The fact that SHE did it, sealed her fate as a "bad" woman deserving of arrest and punishment.

Lisa Harney said...

I somehow doubt that the only reason she was arrested was because she tried to resist arrest...wait, what?

Read what they're talking about - it's not that she attacked the police officer, it's that she was indecent in public.

belledame222 said...


I hate the crap about public sex anyway. "Decorum" my ass. Dude, if the police weren't there, then...yeah, worried for her, and pissed off.