Wednesday, January 7, 2009

Christian license tag backers vow to prevail

Well, I'm certainly happy that Andre Bauer's numerous stunts have all been forgiven by the religious right, now that he has publicly partied with the likes of Mike Huckabee and is now showing up at their goofy-ass rallies.

You too can be held at bay by armed law enforcement officers, but still get rated an okay guy by the religious right--as long as you back the correct Christian license plate!

My question: Why is a license plate necessary? Can't they just buy a bumper sticker like everyone else?


Christian tag backers vow to prevail

McMaster, Bauer among 350 at rally in wake of ruling on 'I Believe' plate

January 7, 2009

It was standing room only at People's Baptist Church in Greer on Tuesday night as more than 350 people from around the Upstate rallied to fight a federal judge's ruling on Dec. 11 that halted the state's sale and production of "I Believe" religious license plates.

U.S. District Court Judge Cameron McGowan Currie issued the injunction on the grounds that the plate violated the U.S. Constitution's establishment clause forbidding government from establishing a religion.

The license plate, which was approved by 78 percent of the Legislature, depicts a stained glass window with a cross on it and the words "I Believe" above the tag number.

The rally was organized by the pastor of People's Baptist, the Rev. Arnold Hiette, who said he is fed up that Christians cannot display anything that symbolizes Jesus Christ or Christianity.

"We've lost so many rights as a Christian over the last few years, the right to prayer in public and call the name of Jesus, the prayer in schools, and this, that and the other. ... The people of South Carolina are really stirred up about this," Hiette said.

One Honea Path resident at the rally, Linda Martin, said she came for that same reason -- to stand up for her rights as a Christian.

"We have every other kind of tag you want in the world supporting sports and whatever else. But as Christians we can't have a tag that says 'I believe,'" Martin said.
Christian note: Did she just compare Jesus Christ, the son of God Almighty, to a sports team?!?

(((reads back)))

Yeah, I guess she did.

Wait, here comes the FUNNY PART! Andre Bauer is on the scene!
Guest speakers Attorney General Henry McMaster and Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer echoed the crowd's sentiments.

"Total freedom of speech doesn't mean everybody but Christians. When a secular group can get a license plate and nobody challenges it, but Christians can't, there's a problem in the system," Bauer said. "Quite frankly, we're under attack."

Attorney Kevin Hall, who is representing license plate supporters, said the country is being swept by a radical movement where freedom of religion is construed by some to be freedom from religion.

Hall said he, along with McMaster and Bauer, will continue to battle the Dec. 11 ruling and said the case is in limbo as they chart their next steps.

However, Hall does have a plan if the case does not prevail in the courts.

"I will tell you that the name 'I Believe' has been reserved as a corporate name at the Secretary of State's Office in the state of South Carolina," Hall said. "We will take an existing 501(c)(3) corporation, we will change its name to I Believe. We will apply for a license plate at the DMV, and we will dare them to say no."
Can they really do this?

Will I BELIEVE become a CORPORATIZED statement? Does this mean when some poor grandma stitches a sampler with I BELIEVE on it, and then tries to sell it at the county fair, she could be arrested for copyright infringement?

Also, does this mean if Muslims or Hindus try to use I BELIEVE, it will already be patented by Christians, and they can therefore be sued too?

The possibilities are endless.

Play along at home!


Ancient Wisdom said...

Howdy Miss Daisy,

Just my opinion;

If people wish to express their faith, let them express it as long as everyone receives equal time.

But why in the hell would people wish to pray in public, this is demeaning to anyone's view of God.

The paradigm is shifting. People are beginning to awaken realizing that 2012 is not the end of the world, but rather, appears to be the end of the world as we know it.

We, this sphere and the entire universe is being prepared for graduation. A graduation from our present 3rd density illusion of power over others into a 4th density awakening of the spirit. A spirit that has laid dormant for tens of thousands of years, having forgotten who we are.

The remaining last few days, months and years on this material illusion will be difficult for those who do not understand this galactic birthing process.

Yet, those willing to pass through the eye of the needle will be required to shed their excess baggage. This was the reason why The true, therefore non-religious, anti-establishment Christ prepared us with phrases such as, "Don't kill, don't judge, don't hate, forgive all, repay hatred with kindness."

The foundation for all holy books comes from one law, The Law of One.

If you wish to learn more, click on the "Ancient Wisdom" link above

SnowdropExplodes said...

If they try to claim the words "I Believe" as intellectual property, they may have some competition from songwriters who have used the phrase as titles and lyrics in their songs; or from philosophers who have used the words for the titles of their books.

ArrogantWorm said...

You wouldn't think the patent would stand in a court, it's nebulous. There's nothing concrete in the saying like a company title, nor is it made popular by a specific group as a catchphrase. As per the plate, separation of church n'state, state shouldn't be making them. End of argument.

""We've lost so many rights as a Christian over the last few years, the right to prayer in public and call the name of Jesus, the prayer in schools, and this, that and the other. ... The people of South Carolina are really stirred up about this," Hiette said."

And - that - just irritates me. Doesn't come close to what I was taught when I was younger. Y'don't flaunt your love of God in public as it leads to self-aggrendizement and false piety. Besides which, they didn't lose squat. They can pray in public and in school just fine. Just - quietly -. It rankles, read that stuff and it feels they're giving more of a bad name to m'old taught religion. It's like, Dude, you're doing it Wrong.

Renee said...

Personally I don't have a problem with the license plate. As long as people are given the option to say no to me it falls under free speech. I don't see how the government can argue the way it when In God We Trust is on money thereby conflating the state with religion in the first place. I do find it hilarious that they used a sporting team as an analogy.

ArrogantWorm said...

I'd like to see the 'in God we trust' off of money, too, but I'm a stickler. Having an institution screw up isn't much of a reason to encourage more screwups, though, and if religious plates were state-made there's bound to be arguments when someone wants to have another state-made plate, perhaps one that goes to Allah or revering nature. If you do one thing you should do them all, and the state can't afford all of them. Nice bit of irony about the money for the gov, though, considering the sentiment 'but all others must pay cash' might as well be in letters after 'In God we trust'.

Dennis the Vizsla said...

I'm sure these folks will be first in line to support the right of Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Satanists, etc., to get their religious iconography onto license plates, too ... :-/

Mista Jaycee said...

Christians should display Christ in their lives and in the lives of other people by bettering the conditions of how people live. Better Housing, Better Education, Better Food! Affordable Healthcare and Rent and Home Ownership!

belledame222 said...


And yeah, though, isn't there a -lot- of Jesus-as-sports-hero? Muscular Christianity and its descendents, yes? Little figurines of Jesus playing touch football and that sort of thing, which I'm currently too lazy to look up, but I know it's out there, I've seen that shit...

Anonymous said...

I have travelled in Indiana since they started issuing license plates with "In God We Trust" imprinted on them. I was initially quite upset about them, but have come to realize that the state is doing those of us who actually know how to drive a great favor. The plates are so much nicer than demanding that these people plaster "I am a freaking moron" on the backs of their cars, and they do it voluntarily! When vehicles with one of these plates pass you, you know to get ready to hit the break, because they will invariably cut in front of you and slow down. If you come up on the back of one, you know to give the vehicle plenty of room, because they haven't figured out the whole turn signal thingy. And if you see one off on the side of the road, you know ahead of time what you are getting into if you stop to offer help.

mud_rake said...

That article ran in the Toledo newspaper this morning. No doubt, the oh-so righteous fundamentalist christians are boo-hooing this morning and blaming the humanist/atheists for denying their Constitutional 'rights' to express themselves.

Of course, in that they are delusional and psychotic in the first place, makes it all more humorous.