Wednesday, May 9, 2012

Amendment One round-up

I knew the horribly homophobic and bigoted Amendment One (in North Carolina) would pass, because nothing gets the fundies stirred up like getting a chance to shit all over the gays. In fact, that and slut-shaming seem to be their favorite activities, that I can see. (Feeding the poor and all that other boring stuff Jesus instructed them to do? Not so much.)

The right-wing can fire up their base during primaries with direct-hatred opportunities like this, and win elections. This doesn't work as well in general elections.

Interestingly, the last time North Carolina amended their constitution on marriage (in 1875), it was to outlaw interracial marriages. The fundies have never apologized for that one, either. (I am sure a majority of fundamentalists still quietly agree with that position, but they have learned it isn't polite to say it out loud.)

And now, featuring some very good writing on the whole Amendment One debacle, starting off with DEAD AIR's big winner for the best case to be made for (now-defeated) Amendment One:

One Trial Lawyer’s Final Argument to the Amendment One Jury (NC Amendment One Truth)

BREAKING: Marriage-banning Amendment One Passes in North Carolina (Queerty)

North Carolina (Box Turtle Bulletin)

The Anti-Gay Religious Freedom Contradiction (Waking Up Now)

Maggie [Gallagher]: Why Focus on Same-Sex Marriage Rather than Divorce? (Waking Up Now)

In North Carolina after Amendment One, ‘Let the wild rumpus start' (Washington Post blogs)

Amendment One Passes: North Carolina State University Launches Petition Calling For Appeal (Huffington Post)

North Carolina and Amendment One (Whatever)

John Scalzi of Whatever (last link) is especially eloquent and worth quoting:

Five years from now the majority of Americans will support same-sex marriage; ten years from now the large majority will. But ten years from now it will still be against the Constitution of North Carolina for same sex couples to get married (and Ohio’s, too). I’d like to be wrong, but I doubt I will be. It’s harder to repeal a constitutional amendment than a law. The bigots know this. This is why the bigots do what they do.

It sucks for gays and lesbians that in places like North Carolina, and Ohio, and even California, all that can done at the moment is to assure those of them who would like to marry those they love is to tell them that it will get better. I shouldn’t have to get better. It should be better. But you work with what you have in the real world, and in the real world, what gays and lesbians in places like North Carolina and Ohio and even California have is the future. Let’s get working toward it.
We will be discussing evil Amendment One (and the fascist fundie response to it) at length on my radio show on WFIS, Saturday morning at 9am. (see link to podcasts on right)

Stay tuned, sports fans.


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Photo at top is from Strollerderby.

14 comments:

JoJo said...

I big fat disappointment but I guess not surprising....

bryce said...

ive been pretty depressed abt the margin, not surprised tho

Stuart said...

I am disappointed by any state that adds to their constitution a denial of rights to individuals. If the people who voted for Amendment One in NC feel threatened that their marriage will suffer if gays are given the equal opportunity, then maybe we should propose another amendment outlawing divorce to force these people into a lifetime contract.

Stuart said...

Amendment One is a slippery slope. If the constitution can be amended to deny marriage to homsexuals then what is to prevent them from amending the constution to say that the only recognized marriage will be between one Christian man and one Christian women. Thus denying rights to (Heterosexual)Jews, Muslims, Buddists, Atheists and Agnostics. Denying equality to a single group leaves the door open to denying equality to others.

Anonymous said...

I knew the horribly homophobic and bigoted Amendment One (in North Carolina) would pass, because nothing gets the fundies stirred up like getting a chance to shit all over the gays. In fact, that and slut-shaming seem to be their favorite activities, that I can see. (Feeding the poor and all that other boring stuff Jesus instructed them to do? Not so much.)

Be civil like that? Sorry! No can do.

DaisyDeadhead said...

Anon: Be civil like that? Sorry! No can do.

Okay, I'll play.

WHY can't you be civil and feed the poor? Why "no can do"? Didn't Jesus instruct you to do that? Is that any harder than hating?

Too bad you don't have the guts to sign your name, or we could chat further. As it is, I usually delete anonymous trolls (or I have since I started the radio show anyway)... my tracking shows that you are in Columbia... by chance are you the governor? I see you write as well as she does! (LOL) After what I said about Gov Haley this morning on the radio, I can understand why she might be a trifle pissed at me. If you ARE her, hope you will come back and post again soon!

Conseglieri said...

Daisy, I don't know, but I *think* anonymous is with us on this one, based on reading the message. Her/his point seems to be that those who are willing to abuse the rights of others on the basis of some sort of perceived anti-gay bias in the teachings of Christ while at the same time ignoring His admonition to care for the poor etc are missing the meaning of the gospels.

Of course, I could be wrong.

Jim said...

Daisy,

First, thanks for posting on this. Of course you would say something, but it's stil; nice to see it.

Next, have things calmed down with the threats and intimidation?

Third, this kind of last gasp desperation move is not as concerning as previous actions in other states simply becasue it comes so late, and the tide is clearly turning, both demographically and therefore politically.

Fourth, this business brought out some really, really good anti-homophobic stuff from people. there was a minister at Greeneaf ....Church, balck church, who preached a take-no-prioners sermon on this. he said the issue wasn't homosexuality, it was civil rights, and that people in the South, especially the South, should know better. And clearly a lot do, because otherwise there would have been no need to get this passed as an amendment to the state constitution. These people know their own kids are against them on this. That's the way the south is going, and if anything, this desperate effort just gave that movwement a shove in the right direction.

Jim said...

Greenleaf. There was more to the name but I don't remember it.

Blue Heron said...

Legolas Greenleaf, long under bough...

DaisyDeadhead said...

Consigliere, I choose to believe Anon is our governor. :)

West said...
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DaisyDeadhead said...

Wes Hardy of Simpsonville, SC, this makes an even dozen times that you have been politely asked to go away. Therefore, I have decided to make a permanent record of your stalking, because your obvious obsession with me is starting to make me very nervous, which is why I stopped taking calls from you on WFIS. I have uploaded a Statcounter record of your stalking to my FLICKR account. Further, here is your other available information:

WES HARDY possible aka Wesley Hardy
IP: 74.182.124.181
Decimal: 1253473461
Hostname: adsl-074-182-124-181.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net
ISP: BellSouth.net
Organization: BellSouth.net
Services: None detected
Type: Broadband
Assignment: Static IP
Country: United States
State/Region: South Carolina
City: Simpsonville


There is a discrepancy between the publicly-listed address I am finding for you, and where your IP shows you to be. This tells me there is a distinct possibility you are posting from your job. If so, next time you post here, I will certainly let them know that you are. Get to work and stop goofing off and stalking women on your employer's dime.

NOTE: Since you are so proudly right- wing, I find it VERY disturbingly creepy you have friended so many people (mostly women, of course) in Occupy Greenville. This is bizarre and I am mentioning it here so people will know that you are spying and likely associated with some right-wing group that is keeping tabs on us. (And if you aren't, what other reason is there?)

Starting in about one week, whenever someone Googles your name,
they will get this information. If you apply for a job, or if your kids look you up, etc, they will find this entry.

You might have some splainin to do.

Anonymous said...

Daisy, Spokeo says Wes lives in Spartanburg. He probably works in Simpsonville, which explains why he only called your show periodically = while he was working. He probably couldn't get it all the way in Sparkle City, except by podcast.

--helpful listener